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		<title>Comment on Obama and Clinton together &#8230; by Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that we’re beyond Hillary, we can look forward to the first female VP, Sarah Palin, to become the first female President of the United States in 4 years!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is the SEC on its last legs? by Is the SEC growing instead? &#171; David Kirkpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is the SEC growing instead? &#171; David Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Commission, Wall Street Journal &#8212; davidkirkpatrick @ 12:22 pm   This post is a follow-up to one earlier this week about a Wall Street Journal article stating the SEC is on its way out and the way the Bear Stearns [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Second Amendment intact by CM'Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. I’m looking to build up incoming links for my blog. Would you like to exchange blogroll links with me? If yes, please visit: http://greatdebater.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/why-i-blog/ and leave your URL there.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Edward Lorenz, RIP by A fractal universe? &#171; David Kirkpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>A fractal universe? &#171; David Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Fermi Centre, fractals, University of Rome &#8212; davidkirkpatrick @ 12:10 pm   I love fractals (blogged on the subject here, but sadly to note the passing of Ed Lorenz) and news that the universe may be arranged in a [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on McCain working to nail down Clinton&#8217;s fringe? by gustavstaedtler</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mc CAIN remains CAIN.

Hey USA, hey USA.
McCain remains a Cain.
Hey USA,
what's your game,
can anybody play
the games of Cain.?

Hey USA, hey USA.
Oh, what a shame,
if your President becomes Cain.

Oh USA, there burns a shameful flame
in the brain of Cain.
And tell me who is Abel
in your bad games.?

Don't you see the sign of Cain
in McCain's brain.?
Can't you see on the forehead of God's enemy
the sign of Cain.?

Hey USA, 
what's your game,
can anybody play
with atombombs.?

Is it a sign of Abel or of Cain
your bad mad game
USA
you lost long time ago the holy flame
U-nited S-atanic A-ssociation,
USA.

Oh, what a shame
the american way.

USA, don't you know,
the american way of life
is not the way of truth and light.

Greedyness is the line of Cain and his sign.

THE ONE WHO HATES THE TRUTH IS CURSED USA.
USA THAT'S THE WRONG WAY
DAY BY DAY.
*
!!!. - WITHOUT TRUTH YOU ARE THE LOSER - FOREVER - .!!!
!!!. - THE HOLY DIVINE JUSTICE-MACHINE IS ROLLING. - 
THE ONE WHO HATES THE TRUTH IS CURSED
AND WILL BE ELIMINATED - .!!!  
©  Gustav Staedtler./. veritasindeum
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mc CAIN remains CAIN.</p>
<p>Hey USA, hey USA.<br />
McCain remains a Cain.<br />
Hey USA,<br />
what&#8217;s your game,<br />
can anybody play<br />
the games of Cain.?</p>
<p>Hey USA, hey USA.<br />
Oh, what a shame,<br />
if your President becomes Cain.</p>
<p>Oh USA, there burns a shameful flame<br />
in the brain of Cain.<br />
And tell me who is Abel<br />
in your bad games.?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you see the sign of Cain<br />
in McCain&#8217;s brain.?<br />
Can&#8217;t you see on the forehead of God&#8217;s enemy<br />
the sign of Cain.?</p>
<p>Hey USA,<br />
what&#8217;s your game,<br />
can anybody play<br />
with atombombs.?</p>
<p>Is it a sign of Abel or of Cain<br />
your bad mad game<br />
USA<br />
you lost long time ago the holy flame<br />
U-nited S-atanic A-ssociation,<br />
USA.</p>
<p>Oh, what a shame<br />
the american way.</p>
<p>USA, don&#8217;t you know,<br />
the american way of life<br />
is not the way of truth and light.</p>
<p>Greedyness is the line of Cain and his sign.</p>
<p>THE ONE WHO HATES THE TRUTH IS CURSED USA.<br />
USA THAT&#8217;S THE WRONG WAY<br />
DAY BY DAY.<br />
*<br />
!!!. - WITHOUT TRUTH YOU ARE THE LOSER - FOREVER - .!!!<br />
!!!. - THE HOLY DIVINE JUSTICE-MACHINE IS ROLLING. -<br />
THE ONE WHO HATES THE TRUTH IS CURSED<br />
AND WILL BE ELIMINATED - .!!!  <br />
©  Gustav Staedtler./. veritasindeum<br />
!!!.&#8212;- VERITAS &#8212; VENI &#8212; VIDI &#8212; VICI &#8212;&#8211;.!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on McCain&#8217;s top adviser goes there by James R. Pozlner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James R. Pozlner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Published on Friday, June 13, 2008
 
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/13/9596/ 
State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of the George W. Bush Administration
by Lewis Seiler and Dan Hamburg
 
In short, we are living in an on-going state of emergency whose exact limits are unknown, on the basis of a controversial deep event — 9/11 — that is still largely a mystery. 
- UC Professor Emeritus Peter Dale Scott
 
Unhindered by a neutered Congress and a compliant Court, President Bush has six months remaining to pursue his agenda of expanding the war in the Middle East and ensuring the continuation of the Global War on Terror (GWOT) beyond his tenure in office.
 
The current administration has taken unto itself unprecedented, nearly hegemonic powers since the events of 9/11. On that day, George W. Bush issued his "Declaration of Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks" under the authority of the National Emergencies Act. This declaration, which can be rescinded by joint resolution of Congress, has instead been extended six times. In 2007, the declaration was strengthened with the issuance of National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51) which gave the president the authority to do whatever he deems necessary in a vaguely defined "catastrophic emergency" including everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack.
 
Despite time constraints, there are clear signs that the president, the vice-president and their neocon collaborators are not finished. The constant saber-rattling toward Iran, with strong support from Israel, should send a chill down the spine of any peace-loving American. Military chiefs who oppose the president are "retired," as observed most recently with the March dismissals of CENTCOM commander Admiral William Fallon and 6th Fleet commander Vice-Admiral John Stufflebeem. Public opinion counts for nothing. In a March 24 interview with ABC's Martha Raddatz, vice president Dick Cheney responded to a question about the war weariness of Americans with a languid "So?"
 
According to J. Scott Carpenter, former deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs, Cheney pushed hard for airstrikes against Iranian Revolutionary Guard bases last summer. He was deterred by Pentagon officials who insisted that retaliation might be difficult to contain. Now, with Cheney ally General David Petraeus poised to take over Fallon's command, a significant obstacle has been removed.
 
It seems clear that there is a deadly struggle going on within the US government, a struggle that could well determine not only the election of the next president, but the survival of the republic. On one side are the neocons, the fanatics who led us into Iraq and who believe they alone possess the strategic acumen to usher in a "new American century." On the other is the Republican Party old guard ostensibly led by Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Gates was brought into the administration at the end of 2006 to replace the disgraced and despised Donald Rumsfeld, and generally to ride herd over the neocons.
 
The conflict between these factions has broken into the open over the past eight months. The first public signal came in October of last year, when the sixteen US intelligence agencies issued a consensus National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that cut the legs out from under the administration's argument that Iran was on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. The NIE stated that the Iranians had stopped work on the project in 2003.
 
Just before Labor Day last year, a B-52 Stratofortress bomber carrying six cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads flew an unauthorized mission from Minot AFB in North Dakota to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. Due to anonymous, high-level tips to the Military Times, the warheads were recovered. After several seemingly inconclusive investigations of the incident, Pentagon chief Gates fired Air Force Chief of Staff Michael Moseley and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne last week, without revealing the role either man played in the nuke heist. Given the volume of evidence that this unprecedented transfer of live nuclear weapons was not an accident, the question remains: what individual or individuals within the government have the authority to commandeer nuclear bombs?
 
Conservative pundit Patrick J. Buchanan recently suggested that the neocons might be tempted to go to war with Iran in order to improve John McCain's chances of winning the presidency. As audacious as that seems, we want to go one step further. We believe that this administration is so zealous, so determined to hold onto power, that they may well stage a "false flag" attack, creating just the kind of "catastrophic emergency" to which NSPD-51 refers.
 
On April 29 of this year, CIA veteran Roland V. Carnaby was shot dead by police officers after a high speed chase through the streets of Houston. Carnaby, who had been the CIA's Chief of Station for the Southeast Region headquartered in Houston, was involved in conducting security surveys of the Port of Houston and had discovered that the Department of Homeland Security was tolerating gaping holes in port security. Carnaby and Houston intelligence and law enforcement personnel were also investigating the presence of "Middle Easterners" who were conducting surveillance of the Port of Houston. The "Middle Eastern" designator is the term used by the FBI for Israelis (typically Mossad agents) in order to avoid "political" problems with superiors.
 
Former National Security Agency analyst and naval intelligence officer Wayne Madsen has been in Houston investigating the Carnaby case at great personal risk. Madsen believes Carnaby was involved both in heading off a potential war with Iran (by leaking Mossad plans to assassinate Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah just days before Carnaby himself was killed) and in trying to forestall a potential terrorist attack on the port.
 
According to Madsen, "federal agents in Houston fear that 'another 9/11-type part false flag' attack is imminent, perhaps as early as July 4." Such an attack along the twenty-five-mile Houston Ship Channel, site of more explosive materials, toxic gases, and deadly petrochemicals than anywhere else in the country, could create an environmental and economic catastrophe that would dwarf 9/11.
 
How will the struggle within this administration be brought to an end? Will courageous military men like Adm. Fallon speak out before the next national tragedy befalls us? Will Congress act decisively to remove the president's emergency powers, challenge NSPD-51, and defend the Constitution? Will Defense Secretary Gates hold the line?
 
With just a half year left in what many believe has been the worst presidency in American history the possibilities are many, and some of them are truly frightening. As citizens of this country, we must do everything in our power to ensure that there is no expansion of war in the Middle East, no "false flag" attack at the Port of Houston or anywhere else, and a peaceful and constitutional succession to a new administration.
 
Lewis Seiler is president of Voice of the Environment, Inc. Dan Hamburg, a former US representative, is executive director.
____________________________________________________________
 
Explanation of what did not happen to the WTC towers on 911...
 
1 - There was no jet fuel in the buildings when they disintegrated. It had long burned out. Jet fuel (kerosene) burns up in just a few minutes, whether it's one gallon or 10,000 gallons. Anyone who has started a campfire with kerosene knows this, at least with small amounts of kerosene. The towers stood for 56 and 102 minutes respectively after the alledged plane impacts. If we give the kerosene a liberal 10 minutes to burn up then that leaves 46 and 92 minutes respectively when the buildings are standing there with no jet fuel present at all before they disintegrate-collapse. This reason alone, something that a 12 year old can figure out, is enough for there to have been widespread revolt right after 911. 
2 - Jet planes fly all the time burning jet fuel at its highest possible burning temperature (1,000 degrees centrigrade) and there is no compromising of the structural integrity of the steel in the jet engines. 
All over the world there are in use household kerosene heaters which also burn kerosene at its highest possible burning temperature. These heaters are made of steel about 1/8 " thick and yet the structural integrity of the steel is not compromised. 
And yet, according to the government version of what happened, we are expected to believe that (EVEN IF THE JET FUEL WERE ACTUALLY IN THE BUILDINGS AT THE TIME OF COLLAPSE) the burning jet fuel from the planes caused the obliteration of about 200,000 tons of massive steel beams and the turning to powder of about 630,000 tons of concrete (which was insulating the steel from heat) all in about 10 seconds for each building????????????????? Add to that the fact that the melting temperature of steel is 1,500 degrees centigrage. That means that the steel has to be at that temperature through and through, not just exposed to air temperature of 1,500 degrees. In a nutshell, 2 + 2 is not 500. 
3 - We are told that the buildings collapsed due to structural failure caused by the fires and that one floor pancaked onto the other causing a sequencial structural failure of all 110 floors of each tower. Anyone watching the videos can see that both towers disintegrated at free fall speed, i.e. the time it would take any heavy object to fall from the top of the towers to the pavement, about 10 seconds. For this to happen at this speed there would have to be no more resistance to the fall of any of the debris than the resistance provided by air. In other words, there would have to be nothing under the debris from each floor as it fell for it to fall at free fall speed. However, there was something under the falling debris, namely about 1,000 tons of structural steel imbedded in about 3,000 tons of concrete for each floor. This would provide thousands of times more resistance (for each floor) to the fall of the debris from the higher floors than the resistance provided by air. So the government's pancake theory is asinine. 
4 - Even if we were to ignore the preceding three points, there is a fourth observation regarding all of this. An observation of the collapse videos for both towers show that the disintegration-collapse occurred in perfect symmetry (with the exception of the top 30 floors of one tower which began to tip over assymmetrically and then suddenly turned to powder in thin air) all the way down to the ground. For this to happen the support structures for both towers, comprised of a combined 200,000 tons of structural steel imbedded in 630,000 tons of concrete, would have had to have failed in perfect symmetry exactly at the same time. Utterly rediculous from a common sense standpoint and utterly rediculous from a physics-mechanical engineering standpoint !!! 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Published on Friday, June 13, 2008</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/13/9596/" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/13/9596/</a><br />
State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of the George W. Bush Administration<br />
by Lewis Seiler and Dan Hamburg</p>
<p>In short, we are living in an on-going state of emergency whose exact limits are unknown, on the basis of a controversial deep event — 9/11 — that is still largely a mystery.<br />
- UC Professor Emeritus Peter Dale Scott</p>
<p>Unhindered by a neutered Congress and a compliant Court, President Bush has six months remaining to pursue his agenda of expanding the war in the Middle East and ensuring the continuation of the Global War on Terror (GWOT) beyond his tenure in office.</p>
<p>The current administration has taken unto itself unprecedented, nearly hegemonic powers since the events of 9/11. On that day, George W. Bush issued his &#8220;Declaration of Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks&#8221; under the authority of the National Emergencies Act. This declaration, which can be rescinded by joint resolution of Congress, has instead been extended six times. In 2007, the declaration was strengthened with the issuance of National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51) which gave the president the authority to do whatever he deems necessary in a vaguely defined &#8220;catastrophic emergency&#8221; including everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack.</p>
<p>Despite time constraints, there are clear signs that the president, the vice-president and their neocon collaborators are not finished. The constant saber-rattling toward Iran, with strong support from Israel, should send a chill down the spine of any peace-loving American. Military chiefs who oppose the president are &#8220;retired,&#8221; as observed most recently with the March dismissals of CENTCOM commander Admiral William Fallon and 6th Fleet commander Vice-Admiral John Stufflebeem. Public opinion counts for nothing. In a March 24 interview with ABC&#8217;s Martha Raddatz, vice president Dick Cheney responded to a question about the war weariness of Americans with a languid &#8220;So?&#8221;</p>
<p>According to J. Scott Carpenter, former deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs, Cheney pushed hard for airstrikes against Iranian Revolutionary Guard bases last summer. He was deterred by Pentagon officials who insisted that retaliation might be difficult to contain. Now, with Cheney ally General David Petraeus poised to take over Fallon&#8217;s command, a significant obstacle has been removed.</p>
<p>It seems clear that there is a deadly struggle going on within the US government, a struggle that could well determine not only the election of the next president, but the survival of the republic. On one side are the neocons, the fanatics who led us into Iraq and who believe they alone possess the strategic acumen to usher in a &#8220;new American century.&#8221; On the other is the Republican Party old guard ostensibly led by Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Gates was brought into the administration at the end of 2006 to replace the disgraced and despised Donald Rumsfeld, and generally to ride herd over the neocons.</p>
<p>The conflict between these factions has broken into the open over the past eight months. The first public signal came in October of last year, when the sixteen US intelligence agencies issued a consensus National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that cut the legs out from under the administration&#8217;s argument that Iran was on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. The NIE stated that the Iranians had stopped work on the project in 2003.</p>
<p>Just before Labor Day last year, a B-52 Stratofortress bomber carrying six cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads flew an unauthorized mission from Minot AFB in North Dakota to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. Due to anonymous, high-level tips to the Military Times, the warheads were recovered. After several seemingly inconclusive investigations of the incident, Pentagon chief Gates fired Air Force Chief of Staff Michael Moseley and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne last week, without revealing the role either man played in the nuke heist. Given the volume of evidence that this unprecedented transfer of live nuclear weapons was not an accident, the question remains: what individual or individuals within the government have the authority to commandeer nuclear bombs?</p>
<p>Conservative pundit Patrick J. Buchanan recently suggested that the neocons might be tempted to go to war with Iran in order to improve John McCain&#8217;s chances of winning the presidency. As audacious as that seems, we want to go one step further. We believe that this administration is so zealous, so determined to hold onto power, that they may well stage a &#8220;false flag&#8221; attack, creating just the kind of &#8220;catastrophic emergency&#8221; to which NSPD-51 refers.</p>
<p>On April 29 of this year, CIA veteran Roland V. Carnaby was shot dead by police officers after a high speed chase through the streets of Houston. Carnaby, who had been the CIA&#8217;s Chief of Station for the Southeast Region headquartered in Houston, was involved in conducting security surveys of the Port of Houston and had discovered that the Department of Homeland Security was tolerating gaping holes in port security. Carnaby and Houston intelligence and law enforcement personnel were also investigating the presence of &#8220;Middle Easterners&#8221; who were conducting surveillance of the Port of Houston. The &#8220;Middle Eastern&#8221; designator is the term used by the FBI for Israelis (typically Mossad agents) in order to avoid &#8220;political&#8221; problems with superiors.</p>
<p>Former National Security Agency analyst and naval intelligence officer Wayne Madsen has been in Houston investigating the Carnaby case at great personal risk. Madsen believes Carnaby was involved both in heading off a potential war with Iran (by leaking Mossad plans to assassinate Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah just days before Carnaby himself was killed) and in trying to forestall a potential terrorist attack on the port.</p>
<p>According to Madsen, &#8220;federal agents in Houston fear that &#8216;another 9/11-type part false flag&#8217; attack is imminent, perhaps as early as July 4.&#8221; Such an attack along the twenty-five-mile Houston Ship Channel, site of more explosive materials, toxic gases, and deadly petrochemicals than anywhere else in the country, could create an environmental and economic catastrophe that would dwarf 9/11.</p>
<p>How will the struggle within this administration be brought to an end? Will courageous military men like Adm. Fallon speak out before the next national tragedy befalls us? Will Congress act decisively to remove the president&#8217;s emergency powers, challenge NSPD-51, and defend the Constitution? Will Defense Secretary Gates hold the line?</p>
<p>With just a half year left in what many believe has been the worst presidency in American history the possibilities are many, and some of them are truly frightening. As citizens of this country, we must do everything in our power to ensure that there is no expansion of war in the Middle East, no &#8220;false flag&#8221; attack at the Port of Houston or anywhere else, and a peaceful and constitutional succession to a new administration.</p>
<p>Lewis Seiler is president of Voice of the Environment, Inc. Dan Hamburg, a former US representative, is executive director.<br />
____________________________________________________________</p>
<p>Explanation of what did not happen to the WTC towers on 911&#8230;</p>
<p>1 - There was no jet fuel in the buildings when they disintegrated. It had long burned out. Jet fuel (kerosene) burns up in just a few minutes, whether it&#8217;s one gallon or 10,000 gallons. Anyone who has started a campfire with kerosene knows this, at least with small amounts of kerosene. The towers stood for 56 and 102 minutes respectively after the alledged plane impacts. If we give the kerosene a liberal 10 minutes to burn up then that leaves 46 and 92 minutes respectively when the buildings are standing there with no jet fuel present at all before they disintegrate-collapse. This reason alone, something that a 12 year old can figure out, is enough for there to have been widespread revolt right after 911.<br />
2 - Jet planes fly all the time burning jet fuel at its highest possible burning temperature (1,000 degrees centrigrade) and there is no compromising of the structural integrity of the steel in the jet engines.<br />
All over the world there are in use household kerosene heaters which also burn kerosene at its highest possible burning temperature. These heaters are made of steel about 1/8 &#8221; thick and yet the structural integrity of the steel is not compromised.<br />
And yet, according to the government version of what happened, we are expected to believe that (EVEN IF THE JET FUEL WERE ACTUALLY IN THE BUILDINGS AT THE TIME OF COLLAPSE) the burning jet fuel from the planes caused the obliteration of about 200,000 tons of massive steel beams and the turning to powder of about 630,000 tons of concrete (which was insulating the steel from heat) all in about 10 seconds for each building????????????????? Add to that the fact that the melting temperature of steel is 1,500 degrees centigrage. That means that the steel has to be at that temperature through and through, not just exposed to air temperature of 1,500 degrees. In a nutshell, 2 + 2 is not 500.<br />
3 - We are told that the buildings collapsed due to structural failure caused by the fires and that one floor pancaked onto the other causing a sequencial structural failure of all 110 floors of each tower. Anyone watching the videos can see that both towers disintegrated at free fall speed, i.e. the time it would take any heavy object to fall from the top of the towers to the pavement, about 10 seconds. For this to happen at this speed there would have to be no more resistance to the fall of any of the debris than the resistance provided by air. In other words, there would have to be nothing under the debris from each floor as it fell for it to fall at free fall speed. However, there was something under the falling debris, namely about 1,000 tons of structural steel imbedded in about 3,000 tons of concrete for each floor. This would provide thousands of times more resistance (for each floor) to the fall of the debris from the higher floors than the resistance provided by air. So the government&#8217;s pancake theory is asinine.<br />
4 - Even if we were to ignore the preceding three points, there is a fourth observation regarding all of this. An observation of the collapse videos for both towers show that the disintegration-collapse occurred in perfect symmetry (with the exception of the top 30 floors of one tower which began to tip over assymmetrically and then suddenly turned to powder in thin air) all the way down to the ground. For this to happen the support structures for both towers, comprised of a combined 200,000 tons of structural steel imbedded in 630,000 tons of concrete, would have had to have failed in perfect symmetry exactly at the same time. Utterly rediculous from a common sense standpoint and utterly rediculous from a physics-mechanical engineering standpoint !!! </p>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to look at what I posted about Perot in 1992 on that diary about Perot's chart. It will really show you how Perot being a spoiler was a made up media myth. I just feel its important that it be put to bed. It is GOP excuse for losing, and a smear on Clinton's wins. I've provided plenty of imperical data in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to look at what I posted about Perot in 1992 on that diary about Perot&#8217;s chart. It will really show you how Perot being a spoiler was a made up media myth. I just feel its important that it be put to bed. It is GOP excuse for losing, and a smear on Clinton&#8217;s wins. I&#8217;ve provided plenty of imperical data in it.</p>
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		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/bush-43-and-torture/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>goliath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bush is a douche. not just in america. but here in australia we all hate him too. him and his fuck buddy our ex prime minister john howard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bush is a douche. not just in america. but here in australia we all hate him too. him and his fuck buddy our ex prime minister john howard</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tiger done for season by goliath</title>
		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/tiger-done-for-season/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>goliath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah i dunno. i mean anyman thats pregnant probably isnt going to play his best golf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah i dunno. i mean anyman thats pregnant probably isnt going to play his best golf.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New display tech and low-cost wind power by goliath</title>
		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/new-display-tech-and-low-cost-wind-power/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>goliath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed it is. just the other day i got an electronic toaster from the village market. apparently they're gonna be big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed it is. just the other day i got an electronic toaster from the village market. apparently they&#8217;re gonna be big.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Passing of my Scottish clan chief by sam</title>
		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/passing-of-my-scottish-clan-chief/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im a big hairy scotsman who plays bagpipes and hates the queen. maybe we should get together one day and hate the queen together</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im a big hairy scotsman who plays bagpipes and hates the queen. maybe we should get together one day and hate the queen together</p>
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		<title>Comment on Passing of my Scottish clan chief by sam</title>
		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/passing-of-my-scottish-clan-chief/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my last name is the same as yours. where you from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my last name is the same as yours. where you from?</p>
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		<title>Comment on New display tech and low-cost wind power by everydayman</title>
		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/new-display-tech-and-low-cost-wind-power/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>everydayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technology is indeed something that not just evolving. It's evolving faster than we think. 

http://3critical.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology is indeed something that not just evolving. It&#8217;s evolving faster than we think. </p>
<p><a href="http://3critical.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://3critical.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tiger done for season by davidkirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/tiger-done-for-season/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>davidkirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may well be on to something there. Tiger nevers plays his best golf in the Ryder Cup and some of his partners seem a bit daunted or intimidated when paired with him.

I bet post surgery, post rehab Tiger is going to more unstoppable than ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may well be on to something there. Tiger nevers plays his best golf in the Ryder Cup and some of his partners seem a bit daunted or intimidated when paired with him.</p>
<p>I bet post surgery, post rehab Tiger is going to more unstoppable than ever.</p>
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		<link>http://davidkirkpatrick.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/tiger-done-for-season/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there will be less pressure on the US Ryder Cup team w/o him and they will play better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there will be less pressure on the US Ryder Cup team w/o him and they will play better.</p>
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